On today’s episode of the Living Alive Show, I’m chatting with Bradford Glass. He has inspired courageous professionals, leaders and their teams to challenge conventional thinking and to take a stand for living with authenticity and freedom. He recently released his book ‘Living Authentically”. In this episode, we take a look at Bradford’s journey to living his life alive and the steps he took to turn inward and listen to his true self.

Here’s what we discussed in today’s episode:

• Following the voice of our true self
• Becoming Curious
• How monks changed Brad’s life

Can’t listen? Here’s the transcript: 

Autumn:
Welcome to The Living Alive podcast. I’m Autumn Shields, a master connect coach, speaker, author and serial entrepreneur. And most importantly, your hostess, your to help you live your life alive. See, I believe we all have the ability to feel and be guided by life’s nudges to live on purpose. So I’m inviting you to take this journey with me. Rather you were here just wanting to dip your toe in the water and see what this is all about. Or maybe you are ready to dive deep. Thank you for joining us on today’s episode. On this show, you’ll hear powerful life-changing stories from thought leaders of all walks of life that are stirring things up. We will guide you on living your life fully alive. How to identify the nudges and I live in a healthy lifestyle actually makes a difference. So get ready to be inspired, challenged, and connected because it’s your time to make a splash.

Autumn:
Have you ever felt like you were living someone else’s life or lately, have you felt that nudge to live a more authentic life? Well today, I hope you’re ready to dive deep because that is exactly what our next guest loves to do. For over 40 years. He’s inspired courageous professionals, leaders and their teams to challenge conventional thinking and to take a stand for living with authenticity and freedom. Instead, he has served many roles as a captain in the US air force, an engineer, a coach, and now author of his newly published book “Living Authentically in a World that would rather you didn’t”. I’m excited for you to join our conversation with Brad Glass. So welcome to the show. And why don’t you just go ahead and introduce yourself and then we’re just gonna start in.

Brad:
Thanks, autumn and thanks for having me. I’m Brad. I live on Cape Cod and I guess my life story up until at least the last 10 years or so was, I call it a very long tradition that somebody else made up, which means I went along with all the lessons that I learned early in life, which is part of the story most of us follow. And it was probably 10, 15 years ago that I woke up and realized that I was eating well, but I was starving, I guess is the way I put it. And I loved the work I was doing, but it is, it didn’t do anything for me. And I started to look more deeply and I found inside me the idea that what I had been doing my whole life separate from, whether it was managing computer software or being an air force officer or leading nature tours or whatever, then what I was really doing was asking questions.

And the idea was to help people create more space, generate more creative genius and more possibility. So the whole idea about asking good questions as a way to open up space is kind of the definition of coaching. And so coaching found me, but it turned out that was my truth and I’ve just followed that path for the last 15 years or so, largely unaware of where it would lead. But just knowing that as long as I was expressing what was my truth, that it would lead somewhere meaningful to me and two others that turns out. So that’s kind of the snippet. I mean, the resume is a good resume, but it doesn’t mean anything.

Autumn:
Absolutely. And I love that you always use you. It’s fun how we met, but you use the word path and pathways a lot and I love that because I’m super visual and I love that. It, to me, it’s like a journey. And not only have you lived that and you now help others do that and that’s so great is when you do your own work and then you’re able to help other people along with it. I love how we were introduced. I was working on interviewing people that were really living their life alive, since I had just released that book and I was really curious about what other people’s definition was like that in their path and their journey to that. And I was introduced to Brad actually through my life partner who said you have to meet this guy.

Not only has he changed his life, he’s so passionate about helping others and then we got to meet when you were visiting Maui and I was living there. We just had such a great conversation about living alive and what that really means. So I would like to back you way up to that resume where you were living life, you know, 10, 15, 20 years ago, 30 years ago. And just like you said, you were loving what you are doing. So I feel like there’s so many people out there that love what they’re doing. So what is really the difference? When did you feel that there was that awakening? Was it a process? Was it one thing that happened? Like one specific thing that happened to you? What was that switch? Because I feel like a lot of people just live their life and their, it’s a good life. But what’s the difference when you talk about coming alive or becoming conscious? What does that mean?

Brad:
Well I think there was a lot of ways to discover your true path. I mean, one, some kind of cataclysmic event that just thrusts you into undue context, if you will. And you know, that can be a life-changing event, even a disease. I mean, who knows. Mine was more on a glomeration of small changes and there were lots of things that happened. I mean, I did everything wrong from the big perspective, but I was following all the lessons that I learned early in life thinking that that was what life should be. But we’re all taught what life should be, but that’s not the way life really is. So we set ourselves up for a fight with life from the very beginning. So the early part of my life, I was a manager in the computer software industry and I spent most of it trying to wrestle life to the ground and it became exhausting.

I had been divorced a few times. I was doing well at work, but it was stressful and overwhelming. And I woke up one morning and I realized that I hated computers and I hated software, but I love going to work and I had to figure out what that was. And about that same time when work was pretty difficult I guess for me I had an organization development manager on my staff and he made me set aside a morning to spend with him and I couldn’t imagine that I was too busy doing stuff to have a morning. But I relented. And long story short, cause the whole story is in my book, he took me to visit the monks at a the Trappist Monastery in Spencer, Massachusetts that the people that make the jams and the jellies and now ales, but he knew Father Robert who ran the place and we spent a morning amongst the monks and their conversation just blew me away because they were talking about things like quantum science and consciousness and that kind of thing.

And I could do the science conversation, but I’d never thought of it in terms of how it applied to the framework of our lives and our consciousness. So in one morning, it planted a seed that actually changed the entire direction of my life. I just started to listen a new way, I guess what I did in terms of the work was to use my engineer mind to look inward and to try to figure out what was going on for me because it was a complete mystery to me at that time. My whole world was, was shaken up with that one conversation, but I had to figure out what was going on. Wow. So that became the seed that they kind of germinated. It took a long time to germinate. It’s kind of like those packets of bristlecone pine seeds with a joke directions on them that say plant and whatever, and then wait 400 years, you know. So it was one of those. But it’s been an interesting journey since then. It’s really just been a journey of awareness. I was clueless the whole time I was fighting so hard.

Autumn:
So from that perspective, as a younger person, what insight or advice or wisdom would you maybe give somebody that’s younger, maybe just starting off or in their career and just kind of are, maybe they’re aware their wheels are spinning, but there’s more?

Brad:
I might be wrong on this, but I think that we have to get to a place where we get it, that our wheels are spinning before we’re open to an alternative cause we think we’re right and we too, that’s the way we power our lives. We have to believe in ourselves. And even if that is a false self, we still have to believe in it. So I think we need some kind of crisis or stress or overwhelm or some run-in with a limitation in order to get it. I think at that point, the thing is that the way I look at it is we have voices in our head and we all have voices in our head and they’re running 24/7. If you think you don’t have voices in your head, stop thinking for a minute.

It’s pretty hopeless. There’s always something going on. I should do this. What if they say this: I have too much to do. I can’t have this conversation. I don’t know all these stories that are running around in our heads, but 90% of the voices in our heads are stories of old lessons and tapes that don’t mean at the end thing. And the voice in our head that matters is the voice of our true self. And when you get to the point when you realize that life has become a struggle, you can finally get it. That the struggle is a result of following all of the thinking that was poured into you by other people. And when you can grasp that concept. My experience is you can’t get that when you’re fighting so hard with life because you believe the fight is real. But when you finally get the, it could be your thinking, then you can start looking inside. And the process is so simple as just outrageous. I mean, if we’d learned to listen to our truth from age one wouldn’t be like this. But we learned to listen to everybody else’s truth. And the only thing you have to do to change your whole life is to become aware of how your thinking is hijacked your mind.

Autumn:
That’s a great perspective.

Brad:
It’s not easy, but it’s simple. It’s deceptively simple. it’s simple in the sense that a six-year-old can do it, but deceptive in the sense that everything we’ve learned since we were six tells us not to.

Autumn:
So what are some of the tools? If I’m like, I want to do this, I want to start thinking instead of just listening and being programmed?

Brad:
Well, the first thing is to let go of all of the skills that we think we need in order to live life the hard way. The biggest example is trying to be, if you’re trying, it’s not a problem that you need to solve. It’s a signal that you’re off track.

There’s no trying at all in this. You don’t have to try to change the way you think. You don’t have to try to change life. You don’t have to try to change other people. You just start noticing stuff.

Autumn:
Be curious.

Brad:
Yeah. Become curious. And what you’re doing is you’re, you’re becoming an observer of your life in addition to being a participant in it. Which is participant runs down the street with a drama you observe her, stops, watches the drama and says, gee, isn’t this curious? I wonder what’s going on? That tool changed a lot for me.

And it’s so awkward because when in any part of our life were we ever told to stop what we’re doing and go introspect?

Autumn:
I feel like I’ve just been running down the street plan apartment. We’ve been so busy playing apart and focusing on a part and trying to do our best job at the part. It made me realize that there are other ways to do it than just play the part.

Brad:
Yeah. But until we get to that point, we think the part is what life’s all about and we’re so busy fighting with it that we can’t imagine stopping. We can’t imagine looking inside ourselves. We see it as a complete waste of time. And that’s the biggest obstacle to all this because the work is not difficult. Any of us can take 10 minutes and replay conversations we’ve had over the course of the day. It just ask, I wonder what I was thinking? I wonder what was going on for me then? What was my real intention? What did I think I wanted and what I really want? But we can’t even imagine that that’s worthwhile. So the biggest obstacle to it all is that our, one of the rules we learn in life is to not question the rules. So we don’t, we’d all look. So we miss out on everything. That’s true for us because we were looking in the wrong places.

Autumn:
And just like you said, it’s 10 minutes of simple. It’s simple, not easy, but it’s simple. But that 10 minutes, I feel like for most of us it’s just as easy to fill that 10 minutes with noise to turn on the TV to sit there and scroll through Instagram or Facebook or to listen to what everyone else is saying and just continue with the noise throughout the day instead of just setting. I know for me and a lot of Americans at least were brought up to do, do, do, do. And if I’m not doing something, like I’m wasting my time. Why would I just sit her 10 minutes and sit and do what? Like what do I need to be doing? And I remember reading books about being and you’re not really being, cause you’re reading and just learning what that is to be and during that time of being is to think. And the first thing I think about is to do lists and the voices continued. The voices continued. So just to be observant of that and what am I thinking about and what am I feeling? And that 10 minutes changed everything as soon as I started doing that. So that’s a great tool. Thank you for sharing that.

Brad:
Yeah, I’d say it absolutely changes everything we know at the beginning of that was the long story because I’m convinced that the organization development manager that made me take this morning was trying to turn me from a human doing it to a human being. And I didn’t get that distinction at the time. But yeah, I mean we want to keep doing because that’s what we’re taught. We can’t imagine that stopping doing can be helpful.

Autumn:
Yes. Helpful. Beneficial. And it can be productive. Actually be productive. That turns out it’s the path to freedom really is we have freedom of living in your own life. I love asking, you know when I first asked you what does living in life live and there’s a path of understanding that so

Brad:
Well we can’t imagine that we’re living somebody else’s path because we’re working so hard at it and we’re fighting as hard as we can fight with stress for overwhelmed, frustrated or not satisfied, but we’re convinced that we’re winning or that we can win, but we can’t because we’re not living our own path. We’re following somebody else’s.

Autumn:
As this started germinating for you, when did you start noticing that there was a feeling of freedom? Like what did that feel like to you? When were those moments that you notice that or notice something was different?

Brad:
That’s great because it wasn’t a moment. That’s the thing. We were so used to having everything be cause and effect. I drop a pan on the floor and it makes a noise. I make something and I can see the result. But I read somewhere that this work is more like tending a garden than it is building a house. When you build a house, it’s a plan, you buy vital materials, you hire the help and you make the house and it’s done. They’re doing skills. But when you tend to garden, you don’t make roses grow, you nurture conditions to allow them to grow, but they grow just fine on their own.

Autumn:
What a great analogy. Yes.

Brad:
Perspective on life is more like we want to pull up the roses to see how they’re doing and that’s the doing skills. So the idea is to stop doing and replace the doing skills. Like with things like, no, they’re still skills, but they’re being skills awareness. So you notice stuff and you don’t miss anything. Patients to know that the answer is there, but it’s not there. Like solving a math problem, trust that it all comes together somehow. So I think you asked me how that was for me and I lost track of my thought on that. What was the question you asked me just a minute ago?

Autumn:
Well, just when you started noticing your thoughts were changing and that feeling of freedom started coming along,

Brad:
Right. So it wasn’t a moment when I noticed that freedom came along. It was a diffuse awareness that I woke up one day and I felt like I was doing things differently. Or I’d wake up a different day or I stop in the middle of something and realize, Hey, I never did it this way before. This is easy. This is fun. So it was like a wave of diffuse moments that were completely disconnected in the sense of traditional cause and effect from anything that I had done.

Autumn:
And that’s gotta be exciting.

Brad:
It is. But it’s not the same cause and effect, like in a science experiment. And that’s the part that’s difficult. And me being trained as an engineer and a science guy, it was hard for me to do that. But when the practices create these aha moments that just show up seemingly out of nowhere, that’s when you know you’re on the right track.

Autumn:
I love that it’s called a practice. I love that word practice because it’s practice. It’s something we do all the time. It’s practice and it’s a journey. It’s not something we just do and done and check off the list.

Brad:
Well, it’s written this way in the book I think, but, practice, I compared it to learning how to ski. I mean, if you want to learn how to ski, you don’t get to the Olympics by reading books on skiing. You get to the Olympics by coming down the mountain and the mountain teaches you to ski in a way. And I think that’s really crucial because again, we’ll go back to the doing skills and we want it all to happen. We want the cause and effect thing. But it’s the awareness that comes from the practice creates change.

Autumn:
I mean as your getting excited and noticing thoughts and you’re noticing behavior. When did it switch for you that you have a message for others that are just can stay inside of you anymore and you knew that you had to share with others.

Brad:
That’s good. Because about the same time as the monk story, the same guy who took me to the monks hired a coach. I still know him. He still runs a great coaching school. He’s amazing. But back in his early days, he came to visit and he was there to help me. Become more of a human being, I guess is what it, what it would be now. But he said something to me that was another one of those germinate in five or 10 years things. But I never forgot what he said. Word for word. And I think this is the answer to your question, but he said, “Brad, you need to use your intellectual horsepower not to get it right, but to help other people get it right.” And it was so cool. I mean the word stuck with me, for 20 years now, this was back in the 1980s, so 30 years. It took me a long time before I did anything with that. But those words came back to me over and over and over again. Every time something in life inspired to make me learn something new and I wanted that. I wanted other people to get it right. That was my biggest dream. But I had learned to be such a perfectionist that I couldn’t release that I had to do it myself. So all those paths kind of converged and became the path.

Autumn:
Yeah. And so you made the jump, you made the jump from having that science mind and going to work every day to creating a life of being an entrepreneur and helping other people. What was that jump like for you?

Brad:
It was fun. The most fun part of that journey was releasing the need to know everything. That’s so hard. I have been in prison for 30 adult years of having to know everything. I mean that was the game. I mean, I’ve joked about it, but I remember coming home from school once and high school with a math test with a 97 on it. And the only comment I got from my dad was, where are the other three points go? Go find them. Okay. So I had learned pretty heavily to get it right. But the freedom came when I could say, I don’t know. Okay. I don’t know. Or what do you think? Or let’s figure it out together. Or I don’t know how, what can we bring from other experiences? We’ve had to figure this one out

Autumn:
So hard from that engineering mind and that science mind to go into this thing where people say this as, Ooh, it sounds woo woo. It sounds like it’s a whole bunch of talk, but what it really is, is I want to touch it. So going from the answers to try and to get to a place where you’re at now of helping other people and creating a life for yourself, doing it.

Brad:
It’s just fascinating to see what happens when you can let go of preconceived notions and with awareness, you start becoming aware of that you’re letting go of preconceived notions, which is more fun because now you can do it on purpose. I mean, now I can say, I don’t know, and have that be one of the most fun things that I can say to anybody. I don’t know. I don’t know that between that and just seeing everything in life is entertainment. I made a release of all judgment. I mean, we learned the blame game. We learned to blame everything outside of ourselves because we’ve learned historically, at least in this country, to focus on the external world instead of ourselves. And when the external world doesn’t comply, which is always, we blame other people.

Autumn:
Yeah. You can’t turn on a TV right now and hear a whole bunch of blaming going on. It’s all blame, everything. It’s all blame.

Brad:
But I’ve just completely replaced that. It’s all entertainment. Honestly, I couldn’t imagine doing this 20 years ago, but I honestly can drive on the highway and have somebody cut me off and I don’t react anymore. All I do is slow down so I don’t hit him, but I don’t react. And there used to be a time when I take it personally, I get angry, you know, and because I live in Massachusetts, I passed them and slam on my brakes, but I don’t do that anymore. And it’s freeing cause I’m not stressed, I’m challenged because I love what I do and I still have music left to play. But the challenge is not the same as a feudal sense of stress and overwhelm.

Autumn:
Yes. Well said. And then from when you noticed you were living a certain way and then you decided, I want to start sharing this with other people. I feel like sometimes when we go on our own pack, I mean it’s like in us, I’m gonna have so much excitement about this, realizing there’s a different way to live. There is a life of freedom. There’s a better way to interact. There’s a happier way. There’s a way that their health can get out of your less stressful, your relationships and more enriched. So that’s coming in boiling up inside of you and then tell me about the jump and you just decided, yeah, I’m going to start being a coach and help other people.

Brad:
Well it was funny because in the corporate world, there’s an org chart. Everything has to be an org chart from the top down and all that kind of stuff. But I realized that in addition to the org chart there was also a thing that I now call the emotional org chart. And wherever I went in the corporate world, I was near the top of the emotional org chart. I didn’t do it on purpose, I didn’t try to do anything. Well, my observation was that people from my own organization and other organizations used to come from me for counsel advice perspective because they knew they could get the real deal without corporate speak, without all of the frosting and the protocol and policy and all that kind of stuff. And they appreciated that. And I realized that was part of the coaching thing too. So when I left the software world, I was already doing what I was doing. I mean, it was a jump, but it wasn’t a leap, it was, the image I have and you’ll appreciate this with a Maui connection that what I was doing the last few years in the software world was like surfing. You know, I’m riding the wave and when the wave breaks, I pick up my board and walk and just keep going.

Autumn: 
And that’s what’s great about identifying those gifts like you were already, people are already calling on you for specific gifts, not just a job description, but you kind of evolved as a person that people were seeking out the specific gifts. So you were able to identify them, which is so awesome that and we can identify our gifts. We don’t have to be like anybody else. You don’t have to be like the guy that are left or the right or above us or below us, but we can actually just identify their gifts, start to shine in that area and that arena and then you just find different platforms for the fit, your lifestyle and what you want to do to be able to go share those giftings. And to me that’s another definition of living your life alive is where you can take your unique giftings, all of your brightness and take your broadness into the world because there’s people waiting for it.

And I always feel like if there’s something inside of you that’s kind of boiling up, whatever we want to call it for you, we’ll just call it Bradness that is supposed to come up and into the world. Imagine holding that in like how long could you have held that in and not shared it? Your unique fifteens with the world and look at the clients’ lives that have been touched because your Bradness came out and just like you said, it’s not something to brag on or you know, you think it’s you’re higher or lower or right or left or right or wrong over anybody else. It’s just your Bradness, just all of your way of experience and wisdom and that you’re able to help people in this way and that you did it and you followed that, I call it a nudge. You follow that nudge to go be your Bradness. Are there times you are scared to step into that place?

Brad:
Well, I was totally scared. I mean, I’d never done anything on my own before. I always had a company to back me up. I got away with a lot of stuff cause I was good at what I did and you know, people left me alone. So that was easy. So perhaps the hardest part was realizing that my calling had a public face and I didn’t. I’m an introvert and introverts do really well in software because they get left alone to go do whatever they want to do because it’s a creative pursuit and you know, there’s aloneness involved in that. But so it was, it was hard for me to have a public face.

Autumn:
Yeah. And your name’s on this now. Not only this it is out of the world.

Brad:
I know, I know, but the thing is that the Bradness, I love the term, but what’s unique about all of us is always, always, always, and it has always been inside us and it’s nudging, to use your term, is nudging at us all the time. The problem most of us have, and I did for 30 years is we don’t listen to it, but it’s always talking to us. It’s always inviting us. It’s a source of energy. This always asking us to live out its message, to live out its truth. It’s holding the path open in front of us, inviting us to walk it and we don’t. That’s the part that’s tough.

Autumn:
What do you think is the main reason you’ve seen your clients or you’ve seen other people’s lives that they don’t, but they just ignore that knowing, that nudge inside of them?

Brad:
Because we’re taught not to, we’re taught to focus on the outside world. I mean, we think that thinking that’s in our minds is our own thinking, but it’s not, it’s a very long made up by other people. Which is the way I introduced myself at the beginning because that was true for me. So my book in many ways is my story and I realized that in a way it’s an extended brochure and in a way it’s my living authentically to do that because if that’s not true, if what’s written in there isn’t true for me that I have no right to a written. But that was inside me. That book has been inside me for years and years and years. Probably before I even knew it consciously. That book has probably been inviting me to write it for how long? I don’t know. But the point is that all of us have that something unique that’s inviting us. I mean, you look at people in history figures that we hold in high regard in history, Gandhi, Mother Teresa, Einstein, whatever. I mean they have the same 24 hours in the day that we have. The thing that made them different was they were so clear on what their path looked like that nothing got in their way. Talk about energy.

Autumn:
Yes. It’s just a lot of people you see when people have that clarity and that focus on and just knowing who they are and they just go for it.

Brad:
Well, if you think of your energy every day is being a bucket full of water, they could pour the entire bucket full into what they cared about and most in this planet and the picture that always comes to my mind when I talk to clients or even look at the early days in my own life is that we fill a bucket with water every day by sleeping and eating. And that’s our energy supply for the day. And then we go around and punch holes in the bucket and all the water drains out. And we don’t have anything left to give to the reason that we’re here on this planet in a way it’s a sad way to live, to watch other people do it. Yeah it is. But my thing isn’t to try to make anybody change. It’s to offer light for the journey, keep the torch lit on the path to help people find their own way. And that’s really the focus of my coaching, the focus of the book and the thing I love most in life.

Autumn:
Awesome. Well I cannot wait to listen to this episode again cause I’ve been sitting here like try not to like reach up and take notes. There are so many pros that you passed on that I’ll go back and listen to and actually take notes, cause I wanted to be present during the interview, but I’m so excited to listen to this and finish this book and it’s a very thought-provoking book. And where can people find you or interact with you and find your book?

Brad:
It’s available on my website roadnottaken.com. There are several places on the homepage that will point you to the story of the book and the purchase page. That’s the only place you can buy it. Unless you live on Cape Cod, you can buy it in the bookstore right around the corner from me. But it’s available on the website. It’s a book that’s not meant to be read on cruise control. It’s a field guide. It’s written as a field guide, which means you pick it up, you study a piece, you carry it with you, you take it as a companion for the journey. You come back and you refer to it. And the, the change that you experience is like the change I’ve experienced in my life. It’s a slow agglomeration of details. But you pick up a little bit each time.

Autumn:
I love that. Yes. And I’m actually a quick reader. I can dive in a book. And this one I just, like you said, I did take it in pieces and slow and it’s very thought-provoking and I’d much rather take it along on a journey and visit it and understand it and think about different things and be reflective with it. So what a gift. I’m so glad that this came out of you. Finally, people always ask me how long it took you to write a book. And I think that’s such an odd question. Like, did I start on January 2nd? And I don’t know, like to me it was just always in you at some level and comes out and I was telling about if it’s in you, make sure it comes out of you because that’s there to bless other people. So thank you for blessing us with this book. Thank you for this time on this interview. And any last thought that you would like to live with about living an authentic life?

Brad:
I think I’d like to close with three quotes if I can, because three of my favorite quotes, one of them is from Mark Twain, and it kind of talks to the struggle part of the journey and opens the path to change. And the quote is, “it’s not what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so.” And it turns out that most of what we know for sure just ain’t so, so that’s the beginning of the journey. The second part of the journey is a quote from Thoreau, which is about purposefully looking and noticing and growing your awareness. And the quote is, “let us spend one day as deliberately as nature and not be thrown off track by every nutshell and mosquito wing that falls on the rails.”

Autumn:
I love that is one of my favorite writers and I have not heard that quote.

Brad:
Yeah, I love, I love that one. And the last is from the prophet by Kahlil Gibran. And it’s about the process of change being the result of self-reflection and growing personal awareness. And it’s “the veil that clouds your eyes will be lifted by the hands that wove it.” So three kind of deep quotes. One of them funny, one of them pretty serious. But to me those kind of encapsulate the journey.

Autumn:
Yes. And I’d love that you addressed the struggle that there is a struggle in this. You know, a lot of times people just focus on the good part of living in life alive and the freedom and lifestyle that you learned to create for yourself in a happiness that there’s struggle along the way and there is that understanding of right and wrong and letting go of so many things and thought processes and you’re not lifting the veil. Now any of us can do that anytime. So it’s so empowering that we have that opportunity to be able to do that for our own lives. And we don’t have to wait around for anybody else to do it. That we have the power to live our life alive. So thank you. You’re such a blessing every time I get to talk to you and I know I’ll be seeing you in Florida soon. So looking forward to that. Thanks again for just being you. I love Bradness I’m going to keep using that things for you and you being your Bradness. So have a great time and stay warm at this winter and I loo forward to seeing you soon. Thank you Brad for being you.

Brad:
Thank you for having me. I’m really grateful and this has been fun. So take care and I look forward to seeing you soon too. Thank you. Bye bye.

Autumn:
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